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Unfortunately Firefox is basically already dead, it has an incredibly small market share and it will never grow again because their leadership is affected by the corporate mind virus.

I know most HN users are on Firefox, but they should get used to an alternative now, not when its inevitable death happens.





What's a good, non-chromium alternative?

I've been hearing good things about Orion browser. My wife has switched to it, but I'm still on Firefox.

Our family is already super happy with Kagi as a web search engine, and it sounds like they're doing good things on the browser side too.


Zen browser is quite nice. I've heard waterfox was good too.

Zen is Chromium based, Waterfox is dead without Mozilla working on Firefox.

Zen is a Firefox fork, not Chromium based

Firefox may be far from perfect, but somehow it's still the best option.

My key problem is not knowing what the real good alternatives are? I've trusted Mozilla for so long that I've fallen out of touch with a market that never really changed as much as it has in the last few years.

I simply don't think there's an alternative that will tick all the boxes between UX, privacy, support, etc.

There are zero alternatives to Firefox that aren't 99% Firefox.

Firefox is a unique browser that is, in many ways, positioned to be the best browser. It's fast, fairly privacy preserving, and not built on chromium.


do you have a source for hn users being mostly firefox users?

i can guess that a lot of them are ublock origin users



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